Yes you heard me saying in JPM I trust. Before you shoot me, allow me to defend myself and then pull the trigger if you still not convinced. Post your comment on this board to prove me wrong.
First let us find out who is for compensating share holders, and who are not those whom they want to wipe out all the equities.
On top of my list I have the bond holders. They are # 1 enemy of share holders. They are in a secure position to gain the most of $3.5b. That would explain why the bonds are trading so high. This is their case and they don’t want to share the winning prize with anybody else. If this is up to the Bondholder’s they will screw every shareholders.
Then WMI lawyers are in the second place of my list. These are a group of ambitions lawyers taking over a case of their life. The commission of $3.5 can reach millions of dollars. It’s not in their interest to bring in a complicated case of equity which can prolong the process. They want the shortest cut that they can obtain. They are typical greedy lawyers and their #1 goal is making sure the bondholders are taken care of, period. They have been very open about it. We all remember on the day of hearing on Dec18th when WAMUQ was trading as high as .19 then one of the WMI lawyer made a statement saying that the common equities are not included, and consequently WAMUQ dropped as low as .11.
In third place WMI itself. Let’s face it; WMI is lead by bunch of old school bankers, just like any other nasty bankers they don’t care about anybody. They will gladly take from JPM what ever amount that can suits their plan. And what plan is that? to payoff bondholders and then exit a bankruptcy and wipe out all the equities. I honestly believe if JPM offers sack of money to WMI they will take it with out any hesitation, and guess what, the court cannot force WMI to turn down a settlement.
These three groups don’t care about equities and they will do their best to exclude the shareholders from the process, because they want quick settlement.
Now, here is the core of this article which is JPM and FDIC in my opinion are shareholders best bet, and this is why.
JPM has the best legal team for defending JPM interest. They will pull all kinds of trick to beat WAI’s legal team and not to pay anybody indiscriminately. But that’s their right to do so, which I don’t think they will go that distance. But if they decide to settle, which is more viable in my opinion, and then they will take all or nothing. By that I mean, JPM’s legal people will come up with a settlement that will require an equity committee signing away(on behalf of the shareholders) its rights to pursue further litigation against JPM. Because JPM and FDIC they that, first and foremost pre-seizure holders were subjected to criminal and conspiracy activities, therefore the consciousness is much Sevier if the court find them guilty, then several people from both side JPM and FDIC might end up in jail. Therefore JPM and FDIC will be forced to settle this ASAP.
Now do You see why I trust JPM and not WMI. I believe JPM will force WMI to pay the shareholders through an EC (equity committee) sign away all rights to suing JPM for this same situation. That is why WMI , bond holders and their lawyers are not in favor of forming EC, while JPM needs it desperately.
This is what I believe, I could be wrong. Agree or disagree, I love to hear from you. For now I am online for further discussion, join me on Message board.
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Goodmorning
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I really like when people are expressing their opinion and thought. So I like the way you are writing
Obviously, JPM and the FDIC appear to have some dirty laundry they don’t want exposed.
I agree with Mr. Collier, a settlement is in JPM’s best interest. If the case ever got to a jury, especially in these economic times, that jury might ignore everything and just focus on “it’s the fat cats screwing the little guys again.” It’s only human nature.
Hard to imagine all the zeroes they might add on were it to come to that. I’m sure JPM’s counsel recognizes that dissaster and is advising their client to settle.
As for $24, that sure would be a nice number. Collier, I hope you are right with that.
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Thanks
Bernice Franklin
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The writer of tradingtipsnow.com has written a superior article. I got your point and there is nothing to argue about. It is like the following universal truth that you can not disagree with: Murphy was an optimist. I will be back.
You are more than entitled to your opinion – one of many rights secured by our justice system, in whose forum Washington Mutual shareholders now seek relief and recovery.
You should be shot for your numerous misspellings and grammatical mistakes.
XOM,
Thank you. I survived several incident during OIF, Operation Iraqi Freedom, It will be real tragedy to be killed by spelling Nazis on ihub. If i were you I would be very careful with my words. Remember everybody has an IP address.
i think it will be like 30.00 imo lots of unkonws good luck to all
I have supported all the WaMu’s pre shareholder 100%, and I am convinced they will be rewarded b big time when JPM settles this case.
You need to read your article before you post it as it is filled with misspelled words. First line you used “truest” when you meant to say “trust”
Later on you used “Sevier” instead of “SEVERE”
Wamu TRUTH…
PLEASE READ THESE COURT DOCUMENTS!
JPMorgan admits that the FDIC took over a solvent bank in one of the latest court documents…
I’m enclosing a few more documents filed through the BK court in regards to a declaration of Thomas M. Blake (http://www.crai.com/ProfessionalStaff/listingdetails.aspx?id=1276 ).
The declaration can be found in 103-4.pdf at http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=3b830df9f3d0e6fce7c82ed4b8f0c380aff12395630f22f3ce018c8114394287
Quoting:
12. Based on my review to date, there is no indication that the OTS performed a solvency analysis consistent with the test for insolvency specified in the Bankruptcy Code. There is no indication that the OTS assessed the fair sale-able value of the assets of WMB (or WMI). Nor is there an indication that OTS compared the fair sale-able value of the assets of WMB (or WMI) to the total amount of either company’s respective liabilities. There is no indication that the OTS performed a comprehensive cash flow analysis of WMB (or WMI). Instead, the OTS found that “WMB met the well-capitalized standards through the date of receivership.”8 Thus, without a thorough analysis of the assets, liabilities and capital of WMI and WMB, it is not possible to come to a reliable conclusion concerning the financial solvency of either entity, whether on a consolidated or stand-alone basis.
Here is another document that says as of August 14, 2008:
“We propose to decapitalize WMBfsb by returning $20 billion of capital to its parent. The $20 billion will include the master note of approximately $7 billion, proceeds from $3.5 billion of Discount Notes and cash generated through additional wholesale deposits and advances from FHLB Seattle. We propose the payment of at least $10 billion by September 30, 2008 and the remaining $10 billion through December 2009.”
“The net balance sheet of WMBfsb will be approximately $34 billion to $36 billion after Project Fillmore. The leverage ratio will decrease to 25% from 62%. A well-capitalized institution requires an 8% or higher leverage ratio.”
Read reference page 45 of DOCUMENT 103-1.pdf from here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=3b830df9f3d0e6fce7c82ed4b8f0c380aff12395630f22f3ce018c8114394287
Enclosed is a link to the affidavit of Doreen Logan who is the Controller/ Assistant Treasurer of Wamu who states that there was no liquidity problems;
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%20Ex.%20D%20to%20Affidavit%20of%20Doreen%20Logan%20%28%201%20/07-3/08%20Account%20Statements%29%20A-46%20…&btnG=Search
Remember, WMBfsb was also taken from the holding company and sold to JMorgan/Chase with all of the other assets for only $1.88bil…..
Please, take some time and read these documents. They are a bit long but well worth the read. Don’t you wonder why the main stream media doesn’t mention the suppose “failure” of the largest financial institution in America? Wamu was a 100+ year old company…..Here is a link to all documents filed through the BK Court;
http://www.kccllc.net/wamu
Jamie Dimon planted “moles” in Wamu??? JPMorgan committed corporate fraud???
http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229090501000000000002.pdf
Wamu’s claims against JPMorgan/Chase;
http://wmish.com/doc/gov/0603/JPM_V_WMI_-_ANSWER.PDF
I’m also enclosing another link that quotes Judge Hughes from a case against the FDIC that was wrapped up on August 24, 2005; http://blog.kir.com/archives/2005/08/judge_hughes_ha.asp
“The record shows that the swap was the only reason for this suit. It also shows that the FDIC knew that it had no factual or legal basis for its claims, and that its cases here and in Washington were shams.”
As usual, Judge Hughes is acerbic in his opinion regarding the FDIC’s conduct, noting in particular that FDIC officials “lied about it all under oath” and they “discarded the mantle of the American Republic for the cloak of a secret society of extortionists.”
“It’s hard to find a word that captures the essence of the FDIC’s bringing this action. Irresponsible is close. Arbitrary, dishonest, exploitative, extortionate, and abusive all fit.”
Judge Hughes concluded that Hurwitz and Maxxam “will recover their costs because the record reveals corrupt individuals within a corrupt agency with corrupt influences on it, bringing this litigation.”
The Biggest Banking Heist in World History: Washington Mutual
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=13894
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article14326.html
Please read this descriptive complaint that was submitted to the SEC from Apex Venture Advisors
Mike Stathis Managing Principal on October 7, 2008 in regards to the manipulation that occurred;
http://www.avaresearch.com/files/20090930175434.pdf
http://wamuequity.org
http://wamuqd.com
http://www.wamu-shareholders-resources.com/wamued.html
http://www.wamucoup.com
http://www.wamustory.com
I would sign away my right for $24.00 a share. In reality that is cheep when you consider that should this go to trial and before a jury the damages are unlimited and are what a jury says they are. This mess could destroy the U.S. banking system and the Stock Market. If that scenario were to come true then we don’t have to worry about hyperinflation or recession or anything else. The financial world as it is known today would end, revolutions would breakout and anarchy would rule the day. Far too much is at stake for this to go through court and have a finding against JPM and the FDIC.